Tube City Almanac

February 16, 2005

Blacktop Jungle: Next Year, I Auto Stay Home

Category: default || By jt3y

I've been going to the annual Pittsburgh Auto Show since I was a freshman in high school. And for the last several years, I have come home disgusted. Two years ago, you could have seen a wider variety of cars walking from dealership to dealership on West Liberty Avenue. Last year's show was slightly better, but still mediocre.

Well, the show may finally have hit rock bottom this year, which would be a good thing, I suppose, because there would be no place to go but up. As with 2003's auto show, there's an empty feeling at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center (motto: "Home of the $7 nachoes!"). The 2005 Pittsburgh Auto Show has very few concept cars and not even a particularly wide variety of current production cars for inspection.

This may come as a shock to some people, but most of the current cars at the auto show are taken straight out of the inventories of local dealers. I'm not naive. I know this. But one car still had a parking receipt stuck to its windshield, for goodness' sake!

(Also, I swear that one of the cars was taken straight out of a dealer's service bay. In fact, it still had a half-eaten doughnut on the dashboard, and I think I saw someone's feet sticking out from under the bumper. By the way, Mrs. Kowalski, the brakes on your Dodge will be done Friday. ... OK, now I'm exaggerating --- a little.)

It may be a measure of just how low the Pittsburgh market has sunk in importance that we now get concept cars that debuted two and three years earlier at auto shows in bigger cities. And damned few of them. For this I paid $7 to park and $6 admission? And that was with a discount --- the normal admission price is $8!

Maybe I'm just cranky because the quality of the swag has dropped so alarming over the past few shows. We used to get yardsticks, bandage dispensers, ballpoint pens and little fuzzy googly-eyed doo-dads with auto company logos on them. What were the giveaways this year? Trash bags from the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board and "Froggy 98" bumper stickers. Harrumph!

The only thing that redeemed the show was a chance meeting with a General Motors executive who didn't identify himself. We thought he was a low-level sales drone at first, but a friend and I did some careful questioning, and learned that the fellow was too well-informed. (I "Googled" him this morning, and I think I know who he was, but since I didn't identify myself as a writer, I'm not going to identify him. Suffice to say, he was legit.)

He said that GM is getting ready to move into alternative fuels vehicles in a big way. The company's experiment with pure electric cars --- the much ballyhooed EV1 --- was an expensive flop because consumers found them too slow and too inconvenient to recharge, he said.

And GM has decided that so-called "hybrid" vehicles --- half-gasoline, half-electric --- are not where it wants to be in the long-term. Instead, he said, GM wants to go directly into cars powered by hydrogen fuel cells. The company is already testing them in Europe, North America and Asia and is getting up to 350 miles on one fuel stop.

General Motors' president, he said, has promised to make gasoline engines "obsolete" by 2010, and while many inside the company say they're skeptical that they can meet that goal, it's where GM has decided it wants to be.

Even the company's current cars and trucks are compatible with alternative fuels, he said --- very quietly, GM has built 2 million cars and trucks that have engine computers and components that will run on a mix of up to 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. GM is also heavily involved in producing diesel trucks that will run on so-called "biodiesel" fuel, made from soybeans.

Now, our source said, GM is trying to prod the oil companies into installing the infrastructure necessary to sell ethanol, biodiesel or hydrogen for those fuel cells. General Motors, he said, is particularly worried that if it doesn't move quickly, the Japanese will get a jump on the alternative fuels market.

Given that our current model of fueling vehicles --- purchasing oil from crazy dictators and people who blow themselves up --- is not sustainable for very much longer, this is good news. And it's also nice to hear that Detroit is finally trying to out-think the Japanese, rather than just reacting to them. But I remain skeptical that "Generic Motors" is really taking a long term view of things, and not just a view of the next quarterly earnings report.

Well, I'll believe it when I see it, but our source was very enthusiastic, and he's convinced that alternative fuels vehicles are coming to GM showrooms --- and fast. Talking with him almost made the admission fee worth it. Scratch that --- it did make it worth it.

Unfortunately, I can't promise you'll bump into this guy at the Pittsburgh Auto Show. So, here's my advice: Stay home this year.






Your Comments are Welcome!

Gee, the way Channel 2 was covering it, you’d think it was the greatest event of the year in downtown Pittsburgh. (Actually, given the lack of pro hockey and the continued dearth of conventions, maybe it was.)
Vast Wasteland - February 16, 2005




That’s truly a shocking coincidence, because as it happens, Channel 2 is one of the sponsors of the 2005 Pittsburgh Auto Show! I wonder what the odds are?
Webmaster (URL) - February 16, 2005




The odds are 3.
Derrick - February 16, 2005




The comments about the EV1 are lies. The EV1 was governed at 80mph, and did well over 100mph in ungoverned test. Waiting lists exist in California for the car. GM has been promising alt fuels, including fuel cells, for 50 years.
Marc Geller - February 16, 2005




Interesting about the alternate fuel thoughts from the GM exec.

As usual he parroted the lies about the EV-1 program. 0-60 in 8 seconds didn’t feel slow when I drove one for a day. There were always long waiting lists to lease the cars, and GM refused to ever sell one. Still they killed the program. I’d much rather plug in than support terrorism by buying gas.

The Ethanol vehicles are no secret. It’s because they were given double mileage credit on the CAFE accounting if the car could adjust its timing and mixture to run on Ethanol. Not a hard thing to do. I think it should be required on all cars. I wish we had more Ethanol pumps available.

Maybe he didn’t know that all diesels since 1987 run on biodiesel with no modifications? Sounds like a sales guy. Biodiesel needs work on reducing the NOX, I wonder if they are doing any work on that?

I wonder also if they really believe the Fool Sell hype they are spouting? I doubt they could be so misguided. If so it will just accelerate the demise of GM. Those things are less than 25% efficient from electricity in to power to the wheels. And if you get the H2 from Natural Gas, they pollute more than just burning the natural gas. We can’t afford that sort of waste.

Fortunately there are new domestic auto manufacturers now, they go my names like Toyota and Honda. They are investing in alternative fuels, not just talking about it.

Thanks for the report!
Otmar Ebenhoech - February 16, 2005




So, Earl Muntz and electric cars are what get people to post comments at Tube City Almanac. Interesting.

Anyway, I found Mr. GM Guy to be evasive on many questions, especially as they related to fuel cells. “How much will it cost per mile?” I asked him at one point.

“We think we can get the cost under $10,000.”

“The cost of what?”

And he tried to skip to another topic. So I asked him again —- “What is the cost per passenger mile?” He still wouldn’t answer the question.

My buddy asked, “Where are you going to get the liquid hydrogen?”

GM Guy: “There are many places you can get it …”

“And they’re all very expensive,” I said.

Personally, I’m encouraged that they’re at least talking about this stuff, but I have serious doubts about the ability to bring any of this to market quickly or cheaply.

Whatever replaces the internal combustion engine is going to have some serious drawbacks —- but of course, internal combustion engines already have major drawbacks of their own.
Webmaster (URL) - February 16, 2005




Do they still have slinky models draped on the cars?
Arch - February 17, 2005




I sincerely hope they are working on alternative fuel of some kind – I don’t care if it’s banana peels or coffee grounds – because sooner or later, this petroleum-based society is coming to an end. Probably sooner.

Read this site, it will scare the chit out of you.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net
A. Lert Reader - February 17, 2005




Smog breathing equals shorter lifespans and oil dependance equals shorter economic viability. We need cars like the prover EV1 NOW! There are still 77 EV1’s in California that GM has condemed to the crusher. see www.EV1.org GM put action where your mouth is, restart the EV1 production line and put them in a free market to be owned (not leased). Let the consumer decide if Americans want to be oil and smog free NOW!
Butch Pash - February 21, 2005




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